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Aug 18, 2012 10:14:28 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 10:14:28 GMT -5
Because she had said no. When? I don't know when. Plenty of possibilities during that month.
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Aug 18, 2012 12:21:13 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 18, 2012 12:21:13 GMT -5
He never asked he told the prisoner that they weren't ready for commitment.
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Aug 18, 2012 12:37:34 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 12:37:34 GMT -5
You're repeating yourself LOL That's what you think, and that's fine.
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Aug 18, 2012 12:55:37 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 18, 2012 12:55:37 GMT -5
I am repeating myself because you are insisting he asked her when the writer's clearly pointed out they he did not. I believe he never asked her and you are free to believe that he did. I guess David was lying to the prisoners.
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Aug 19, 2012 4:29:57 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 4:29:57 GMT -5
I insist because we have no real proof. You interpret the hints and the things we see and hear against him, I don't. Both opinions are equally worthy, I think.
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Aug 19, 2012 8:52:44 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 19, 2012 8:52:44 GMT -5
Why is it against him? Why would he propose when in his words 'they weren't ready for a commitment'.. |
What do you take those words to mean?
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Aug 19, 2012 9:58:56 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 9:58:56 GMT -5
Why it is against him? Because we have no proof and you are not giving him the benefit of doubt, and I already told you a possible scenario. Love your missionary zeal, but I won't change my mind on this...
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Aug 19, 2012 10:10:10 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 19, 2012 10:10:10 GMT -5
I am not asking you to change your mind. I am asking you what the words 'we were not ready for a commitment mean?'
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Aug 19, 2012 10:13:34 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 19, 2012 10:13:34 GMT -5
But your scenario makes no sense. He would have said I asked her and she said no. He acted like it was news to him that he should even think of marriage to her. Why don't you rewatch the episode or at least the song and dance number and when he tries to call her.
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Aug 19, 2012 12:26:07 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 12:26:07 GMT -5
The way you insist I'm wrong or that I at least justify myself shows me that you don't accept that I disagree with your interpretation.
Okay, I'll tell you again how I can imagine it: some time during that month he asked her to marry him. Maybe, probably he didn't choose the right words, maybe he masked it as a joke out of his insecurity, maybe he just wanted to see how she'd react. Probably right after they'd rocked the bed. Maddie was in a pact-mood or upset with him because she thought he was making fun of her, and she said no; maybe she played the "not supposed to" card again. She didn't take his proposal serious, and probably that was his fault (yes, you read that right). Had she thought he was asking her seriously, had she reacted differently (although I don't think she'd accepted without further ado). Anyway, her reaction discouraged him completely, and even though he should have rectified it and made himself clear, he was too insecure to try again. And it happened like that of course, because both weren't ready for a commitment.
Reflecting on that situation when confronted by the prisoners, he realized that.
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Aug 19, 2012 12:44:07 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 19, 2012 12:44:07 GMT -5
But why wouldn't he have told the prisoners he asked her? Why?
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Aug 19, 2012 12:46:22 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 19, 2012 12:46:22 GMT -5
Well you are saying I am wrong too aren't you? I am just rehashing the show and what the writers wrote. I am not delving deep into it as you are.
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Aug 19, 2012 14:42:35 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 14:42:35 GMT -5
No I don't say you're wrong, where did I say that??
I quote my own posts:
Both opinions are equally worthy, I think.
you take it that way, and that's perfectly all right, because everyone of us is perceiving things differently.
From what we see on the show, we'll never be able to know for sure what happened - it could have been either way, and you and I have different ways of interpreting it. I'm not saying my interpretation is or must be the right one;
You see: I kept repeating there's no proof for either version, and it could have happened either way - we interpret things differently, and that's okay. You asked a question, and I told you my personal opinion (that David wasn't lying to Alex in FKL), that's all! And I only "delved" deep because you insisted on me giving an explanation. You rehashed what the writers wrote, but you added your own interpretation, like I did.
Oh, and about the "makes no sense" argument: sorry, but that doesn't convince me - not when it comes to Moonlighting or the actions of David and Maddie - very often, those didn't make sense.
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Aug 19, 2012 14:54:31 GMT -5
Post by Addison's girl on Aug 19, 2012 14:54:31 GMT -5
But that's just it it is not my interpretation is what the characters said on the show. I didn't put the words or lyrics in their mouths and that is the point I am trying to make. The way the show was written if he had asked her he would have told the prisoners who were bullying him to propose that he had..that is what I am saying. Maybe he asked her sometime after CHD and before FKL through a message left on her answering machine. LOL I can see it now. They were planning to get married I believe before she lost the baby but maybe at that point the next step to marriage was a given..who knows! Possibly we are arguing over another one of the writers' inconsistencies. lol
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Aug 19, 2012 16:38:29 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2012 16:38:29 GMT -5
Probably LOL but MY point is (and I'm repeating it for the last time now) that even if David did not tell the prisoners "I asked her, she said no" he also did not tell them "I have never asked her." Thus you have no proof that he did not ask her (don't forget, you're talking to a lawyer LOL).
Which, in my book, does leave room for interpretation either way - it's possible that he never asked her which would mean he lied to Alex; it's also possible that he asked her and decided not to tell the prisoners about it (for whatver reason).
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