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Post by Addison's girl on Sept 25, 2012 20:21:11 GMT -5
Maddie seemed she was open to talking about the kiss they had exchanged in the garage in Witness to the Execution. What do you think David's reasons were for immediately shooting her down by telling her that it was just a goodbye kiss and next time he leaves her forever he's covered?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 2:10:07 GMT -5
You mean the epilogue? That's where I totally blame him! Yes I agree, she wanted to talk about it, and had he reacted differently -- who knows? I think he still had her direct reaction to the kiss on his mind, her "what was that?", which I blame her for and which probably seemed like a denial to him. Maybe he thought (and feared) she had made up her mind and wanted to tell him that there was no chance in hell for them ever, and he wanted to prevent her from saying it, to keep the road open.
Or, simpler, he thought she was going to downplay it again and just wanted to show her that if it was nothing to her, then it damn sure was nothing to him too. She didn't send any negative vibes here, but I think he just remembered other occasions when Maddie wanted to talk about things that hadn't ended well.
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Post by Addison's girl on Sept 26, 2012 8:00:39 GMT -5
When she said to him in the 'What was that?" She didn't look like she wanted to play it down or deny it. She looked nervous and unsure and like she wanted it to happen again. I think that David was overwhelmed by the feelings of that one kiss. I think he knew that his feelings for Maddie ran very deep and that scared him. At this point I don't think he was ready for a relationship with her. By playing down the kiss and making believe it never happened he saved himself from a sticky situation (no pun intended). Bottom line it was another one of David's avoidance tactics and had nothing to do with anything Maddie had done present or past.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 11:45:15 GMT -5
No, she probably didn't want to deny it; I didn't say that - I said it probably seemed like a denial to him. But I think she was scared and nervous by her feelings, overwhelmed too, like him, and she wanted reassurance maybe? Trying to overthink?
I think he was overwhelmed yes, but I think he was as ready for a relationship as she was (whatever that means LOL). But I guess he didn't think in these terms ("am I ready for this?") What do you think would have happened if Maddie had not asked "What was that?" and just gone with the flow? How would David have reacted?
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Post by Addison's girl on Sept 26, 2012 12:53:36 GMT -5
I don't know. Who kissed who first? It looked likes she moved in first but I can be wrong. He looked shock to so maybe he would have just stared at her with his mouth open. I love how she says 'What was that?" the way she pushed on his chest. I don't know if he would have kissed her again. I don't think so at this point. What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2012 16:22:45 GMT -5
I can't really tell who moved in first; to me it looks like they moved in simultaneously. Agree that they were borh in shock. I always get mad at her "what was that" - no, maybe not so much about the initial question, but more about the following "what you just did"! By saying that she disturbed the fragile balance between them, insinuating that he had kissed her, thus he wanted her more. She put the ball in his field, and of course he felt trapped into having to admit his feelings first. As a reflex, he objected "I didn't do anything!" I think. I think if she had said "what we just did" all the denial wouldn't have happened. Not sure though if he'd have kissed her again... I mean, there was still the fact he had to run away because of the case. But I think it could have led them a step ahead at least. But that would have been too easy for them, of course
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Post by Addison's girl on Sept 26, 2012 17:39:25 GMT -5
Bottom line. They both acted like children. He needed to be a man and grow a pair and she needed to be a woman and make him feel like a man!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 7:02:52 GMT -5
Bottom line. They both acted like children. He needed to be a man and grow a pair and she needed to be a woman and make him feel like a man! Uhmmmm... okay, agree.
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Post by Addison's girl on Sept 27, 2012 16:45:15 GMT -5
faint
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Post by imdavidsgirl on Sept 27, 2012 21:18:21 GMT -5
It is so hard to tell who went in to kiss first i think they both went in same time it was an urgent kiis , very passioante i think definitely was a pent up kiss i think too . they both wanted it so badly too ! i think david though thought maddie what as that was a denial and it got him nervous.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 1:08:39 GMT -5
Yes! She didn't even mean it as denial when she asked, but he was so nervous he took it like that! I guess Maddie never thought he could be nervous too, because he always seemed to be so self-confident! How ironic that (on various occasions) they were both ready to talk/open up/show their feelings, but either it wasn't at the same time or they didn't understand the other's "language".
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Post by Addison's girl on Oct 8, 2012 19:10:29 GMT -5
and those other kisses that were swept under the carpet?? Kiss in 'It's A Wonderful Life" and 'The Straight Poop.' Are we suppose to thing they never happened in the real show cause one show was like a holiday special and the other wasn't really an episode? But they did happen!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 2:03:28 GMT -5
I know... we've talked about these on fb already, good you brought it up here too...
As you said, Poop was not a "real" episode, so I can live with that (although I love that kiss very very much, it's areally beautiful one, because it has all - passion and tenderness).
But the other kiss at the end of Wonderful Job always bothered me. Well, not the kiss itself but that it was never spoken of again or at least never shown that it had any effect whatsoever on them or made them reflect on their relationship. I mean, they had been dancing their dance around each other for a long time already, and we are to believe that they took that step forward and kissed each other (and Maddie had such a groundbreaking revelation in her vision), and it didn't have the slightest impact on them?? No way. In Witness, that was handled very true-to-reality - you could see that it had affected both, even if they chose to backpedal from that. Yes, that was weird, how those kisses were handled.
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Post by Addison's girl on Oct 9, 2012 5:10:14 GMT -5
I hate that!
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