David's letter

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"This is all crap. I'm miserable and I want you to come home."

Heartbreraking words. How on earth could Maddie have the heart to ignore this letter?? At least there's no hint at all on the show that she ever responded to him in any way, by phone, by letter, by anything -- only complete, deadly silence.

How could she? What do you think were her reasons? Afraid she wouldn't be able to resist his caramel voice if she called him? She could have written him too - in fact, a letter exchange would be exactly the right thing for these two who seem to ruin everything with their habit to turn every conversation in either a fight or a crazy making-out session. Writing David a letter would have given Maddie the possibility to orderly explain her thoughts, fears, qualms and doubts to him without giving him the occasion to interrupt her, persuade her or whatever.

Or do you think that maybe she didn't realize how much he put his heart out on the line with those above mentioned words. Didn't she take his words serious?

[Addison's girl]

I don't think she was being cold or cruel. If you rewatch these episodes you can see how much she is suffering (even if the suffering is made out of her own stupid head). I don't think she took his words seriously. Think of what she imagined he was doing while she was away? Having parties and fun. I suppose she figured he was just trying to charm her to come back home. (After all (Now I am thinking like Maddie) if he was so miserable he would call me. I mean , ok I told him not to but when did David EVER listen to anything I told him to do. Never! He is not miserable at all.) Then she would have riled herself into a fit of anger. I'm surprised she didn't call him to yell at him about not being miserable!

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Oh, I agree - she wasn't being deliberately cold or cruel, I never would have thought that! She was confused, suffering, yes. Do you really think she didn't take his letter serious?? Oh God, she's even more nuts than I thought... but I guess we can blame that already on the pregnancy hormones... sad, though.

[Addison's girl]

I think she took it semi-seriously. Like I said if he was so miserable he would have called...despite what she told him. She knew he never listened to a damn thing she said..including the pact crap.

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Do you want me to say it? Okay, I'll say it. N.U.T.S.

[Addison's girl]

Why is that nuts? Did he ever listen to what she said? This is the one time maybe she wanted him to go against what she told him to do. Maybe it was a test. The only thing that I feel Maddie was nuts in doing was marrying Walter. I could understand her wanting to get away and think about her feelings. Think about what she was going to do with David or without him. That was always Maddie...she was a thinker. A planner. Marrying Walter...now that was NUTS>

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Hmmm I recall that you were the one always calling her nuts, and not only for marrying Walter... saying one thing to another person in a deadly serious way while expecting the opposite AND expecting the other one to read my mind and do what I secretly want instead AND judge him guilty if he doesn't and base decisions important for my life on that fact - sorry but that IS nuts.

It's a stupid manipulative mind game, "testing" the other person who can only lose (like when a woman asks "do I look fat?" And the man says no you're beautiful - "you haven't even looked at me!"; if he says well you might have put up a pund or two "Ha!! So you think I'm fat and ugly!!"). No wonder David was terrified. It might be cute and funny when I'm 16 and in high school, but for a 36 year old (not to mention pregnant) woman gambling her life's happiness by that, it's just plain nuts. That has nothing to do with thinking, contemplating - to do that, you'd have to TALK to tge other person, tell them what bothers you, what your fears and worries are, and ask yourself and the other one "what can be done to make it work?"

[Addison's girl]

Well truthfully in watching many of the episodes again with a keen eye I have come to understand some of the reasons behind Maddie's behavior. Were they childish, immature, wrong in many instances...yes of course. But in some instances she did have a valid point to her behavior. Running away to Chicago was childish and immature but not nuts. Marrying Walter was insane but even the craziest of crazies have their own reasons for their madness.

Do I think it was a manipulative mind game that Maddie was playing with David? No. Do I think she was once again testing him? Again,no. I think when she told him not to call her she meant it. She told him straight out that she wouldn't be able to thing straight is every time the phone rang she thought it was him. (Maybe hoping it was him?) But as time went on without any word from him she began to do what she does best..thinking about why he didn't call. I can just see the wheels turning in her hormonal head. Fine. I told him not to call but he never listens to me. He's happy I'm gone. Probably happy not to have me nagging him at work and home. Blah blah blah. She didn't seem to realize how much David did want her and was willing to commit until she received the baby books he sent. Then what did she do? Get on the next train home. Ok Ok then she had her dumb dreams and got nervous and scared all over again and wound up marrying Walter which was insane. LOL

[Addison's girl]

And she did try to talk to him. Where is the relationship going David? Maybe she got tired of hearing his glib remarks every time she tried to have a serious conversation with him.

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Jul 25, 2012 5:59:44 GMT -5 Addison's girl said:

I think when she told him not to call her she meant it.

Yes, I agree. And he was desperate and thought by playing exactly by her rules the chances to have her come back would be the best.

But as time went on without any word from him

Oh no, you are turning things completely around here. She told him not to call - "let me call you." And she did not. Time went on without any word from her. And as that happened, he wrote his letter to her, laying all his heart on the line with his last two phrases. And again, time went on and on and on without any word from her.

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Jul 25, 2012 6:01:45 GMT -5 Addison's girl said:

And she did try to talk to him. Where is the relationship going David? Maybe she got tired of hearing his glib remarks every time she tried to have a serious conversation with him.

Could be, although I don't think his remarks were glib. But maybe he wouldn't have reacted the way he reacted (which was his way to react to pressure, I think, or whenever he was feeling insecure) if she didn't always start her attempts to serious conversations more as if she was accusing him of something, in a reproachful tone.

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Jul 25, 2012 5:59:44 GMT -5 Addison's girl said:

even the craziest of crazies have their own reasons for their madness.

That's true, of course, in their own twisted logic. But looking at it that way, of course there is no such thing as being nuts at all - it's all a question of definition, I guess.

[Addison's girl]

Oh no, you are turning things completely around here. She told him not to call - "let me call you." And she did not. Time went on without any word from her. And as that happened, he wrote his letter to her, laying all his heart on the line with his last two phrases. And again, time went on and on and on without any word from her.

No I am not turning things around. I know she TOLD him not to call but in her twisted Maddie Hayes logic she must have been thinking: since when does David ever listen to anything I have to say. He really doesn't miss me.

And you can hear what she believed was happening back home as she is reading the letter; David having fun and playing around. She probably figured he was happy she left. And when she read does last lines she looked a bit shocked and thoughtful. Saying he was miserable and wanted her to come home was fine but he really could have laid his heart out in a letter by professing his love and telling her what he told her dad...and saying he couldn't live without her. He missed her, he adored her...That would have been laying his heart out. And after the letter was when she found out she was pregnant so she did call him. He was boinking Rita which I do not blame him for one bit. See I see both of their sides.

[Addison's girl]

Could be, although I don't think his remarks were glib. But maybe he wouldn't have reacted the way he reacted (which was his way to react to pressure, I think, or whenever he was feeling insecure) if she didn't always start her attempts to serious conversations more as if she was accusing him of something, in a reproachful tone.

How was it reproachful asking him where the relationship was going? She truly was confused and wanted to know what he thought.

[Addison's girl]

Could be, although I don't think his remarks were glib. But maybe he wouldn't have reacted the way he reacted (which was his way to react to pressure, I think, or whenever he was feeling insecure) if she didn't always start her attempts to serious conversations more as if she was accusing him of something, in a reproachful tone.

Even she says it during the ladder talk in COM..that he always had to have a glib remark. We all know it is a defense mechanism but still~!